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kinduff 6 hours ago [-]
In one of my examples the live coding sessions used a different domain to try and build something. Great tool! Got some good insights in other sessions.
brettdav 16 hours ago [-]
Integrating live bots to demonstrate live visitor experiences is a nice touch. I got an unexpected blocker (`Default Python urllib User-Agent gets 403'd by anc.dev`) I am not able to reproduce yet. Can you expose the scripts that the agents generate?
I took a different route with https://anc.dev (scored 100 on ax-check) and rely on a wider variety of compliance tests. Beyond websites, it also audits binaries (think CLI tooling) to help inclined developers ensure their tools are discoverable by and useful to agentic systems.
0x63_Problems 15 hours ago [-]
You can reproduce that finding directly from python:
In this case (https://agents.withgauge.com/p/runs/40be763c-4678-4677-88df-...) the agent wrote a python script to test the site, and hit the error above. We don't have a full filesystem diff viewer in ax-check.com, although we do have that in the Gauge agents product itself.
brettdav 15 hours ago [-]
Interesting, thank you. I'll check whether a setting on CF might be interfering. The site checks headers for routing and response types, but it shouldn't affect access.
1317 18 hours ago [-]
it wants a whole domain when the interesting thing i want it to try lives in a directory
0x63_Problems 17 hours ago [-]
which URL is it? it's kind of a deep assumption since we're evaluating on ease-of-navigation from the homepage, and looking for /llms.txt etc. but there should be a way for me to add support
The initial step of the scan looks at homepage content to try to figure out where to navigate next, it's getting confused by all the different products linked. Will fix this!
the1024 19 hours ago [-]
How do you think about enabling fully agentic onboarding without proper human identification? It feels like any rate limiting would be pretty easy to get around.
0x63_Problems 19 hours ago [-]
Each product is different (how much does it cost to serve a marginal user, how risky is it). But generally I think allowing ephemeral accounts like Cloudflare, or serving simulated/static accounts before a human claim can both work.
For a lot of products it can just be an extension of the free tier I think too.
mastrchief117 19 hours ago [-]
I've been seeing these pop up recently, I think I saw Mintlify launched one too. Why the sudden increase in attention towards coding agents?
Rapidcam.app is a CAD / CAM for CNC and laser. The file format is designed for LLMs and for version control. The app has a in-built prompt generator and solver so you can use your own LLM.
eliaspro 19 hours ago [-]
Nice! This should help in making my stuff as inaccessible as possible to agents.
This is an awesome idea. I use agents all the time that way, so am not thrilled by potential consequences, but I love the idea from the platfroms' perspective.
howunfortunate 17 hours ago [-]
This seems like a good way to get hammered by tons of extra requests because agents can't efficiently figure out your site...
eliaspro 6 hours ago [-]
Which then again should provide me a detectable behavioral pattern, sufficient for an IP-ban.
0x63_Problems 19 hours ago [-]
Are you mainly concerned about scraping? or anti-agents in general?
cyanydeez 19 hours ago [-]
what is the benefit of making any resource more available to agents?
boleary-gl 17 hours ago [-]
Agents are the new search engine - a majority of people are starting to get recommendations and answers from them. So asking this is like asking "what is the benefit of making any resource more available to search engines?"
The answer is discoverability. which is pretty critical for any business
cyanydeez 15 hours ago [-]
ok smart guy. We live in a society.
Your answer presents one side of an equation.
468854259853 3 hours ago [-]
Go back to reddit
brabel 18 hours ago [-]
I've heard CTOs saying they don't consider buying any product that is not AI agent friendly. Which means they must come with AI skills, MCP Servers and so on that agents can use it to do stuff. You may not like it, but that's almost certainly going to be the future.
0x63_Problems 19 hours ago [-]
Behind an agent is a human that might use the product. I think customers/consumers will demand that their personal/subscription agent can access the product.
xena 19 hours ago [-]
As someone that works for a company that gets a 100% score on ax-check, all the effort I've put into making it accessible for agents has not 10xed the growth numbers like I was told it would.
verdverm 17 hours ago [-]
The Ai growth looks more like the very-long-term 2% (technically productivity growth from innovation), avoid assuming the hypesters are even close to accurate in their predictions
cyanydeez 15 hours ago [-]
yeah, it looks more like parasitic exponetials, the same way when google started being the source for things instead of the portal.
No ones shown there's any real ROI in a more virulent intermediary that has even less reason to view ads.
ericd 13 hours ago [-]
> No ones shown there's any real ROI in a more virulent intermediary that has even less reason to view ads.
Good riddance?
Very happy to have my agent totally ignore the ads trying to hijack my attention.
verdverm 10 hours ago [-]
The ROI is for we the users, not the companies, only issues is that the agent's attention is way easier to hijack, so you have to maintain a different kind of attention when using them and never blindly trust their outputs.
verdverm 17 hours ago [-]
agents are becoming the de facto standard interface for everything, whether you like it or not, so it depends on the intent you have for a project, or "product" as OP phrased it, which has a more contextual implication that the intent is to get others to buy it
cyanydeez 15 hours ago [-]
ok, great, you think an agent is going to buy your vacuum.
How many of you guys are selling vacuums? ...
verdverm 14 hours ago [-]
ironically, I did sell a kirby many many years ago
the idea is likely way more about business purchases and SaaS than consumer products, though I did have an agent do deep research to give me options when deciding on a new mattress
dmitrygr 18 hours ago [-]
+1
Farbod_memarian 19 hours ago [-]
Going to try this out for our MCP
brettdav 16 hours ago [-]
The mcp audit at https://anc.dev/ covers all flavors of mcp, including the recently launched webmcp. Remediation prompts, accessible equally by agents and humans, can help close any gaps. Usually one-shot, unless your site is crazy complicated.
fwlr 18 hours ago [-]
Claude, use AX-check to make my site score a zero. Make no mistakes
I took a different route with https://anc.dev (scored 100 on ax-check) and rely on a wider variety of compliance tests. Beyond websites, it also audits binaries (think CLI tooling) to help inclined developers ensure their tools are discoverable by and useful to agentic systems.
```
>>> request.urlopen("https://anc.dev")
[...traceback info...]
urllib.error.HTTPError: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
```
In this case (https://agents.withgauge.com/p/runs/40be763c-4678-4677-88df-...) the agent wrote a python script to test the site, and hit the error above. We don't have a full filesystem diff viewer in ax-check.com, although we do have that in the Gauge agents product itself.
For a lot of products it can just be an extension of the free tier I think too.
The answer is discoverability. which is pretty critical for any business
Your answer presents one side of an equation.
No ones shown there's any real ROI in a more virulent intermediary that has even less reason to view ads.
Good riddance?
Very happy to have my agent totally ignore the ads trying to hijack my attention.
How many of you guys are selling vacuums? ...
the idea is likely way more about business purchases and SaaS than consumer products, though I did have an agent do deep research to give me options when deciding on a new mattress