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ticulatedspline 30 minutes ago [-]
This is a hard problem to solve that always existed but is exacerbated by the barrier to entry dropping to the ground.
Really itch is kinda hitting what the mobile markets have been dealing with since long before LLMs, those markets were awash with clones and low quality even outright scammy crap.
Though maybe a bit harder for Itch since their whole shtick is being a low barrier place for people to put their game. Arguably the platform has always had slop, but I would categorize the majority as "honest slop", a person who maybe isn't any good at making games, or doesn't follow through actually finishing their game putting something up there.
anyone old enough to remember Newgrounds and the era of flash knows that loads of flash games were awful. but you would get a more normal Pareto distribution. Ai has lowered the bar so low that ratio becomes skewed. like 1:99 instead of 80:20 with the flood.
Banning AI seems like a non starter, you can make "honest slop" with ai, you can make even good games with it. Self tagging is basically saying "i don't want anyone to play my game". an honest game with AI will get thrown into the pit with the total crap. it's death.
chewing up real people in filters or auto-mod just makes the problem worse. Real people give up on the platform because they were burned, only the AI slop persists.
I don't know how you retain an open and friendly platform that's accepting of honest slop but can stem the tide of genuine slop.
vegnus 2 hours ago [-]
Why anyone would willingly do this is beyond me. It's like putting a sticker on your own back that says "Kick me"
BigTTYGothGF 2 hours ago [-]
Because hopefully soon the alternative will be getting banned from itch.
vegnus 2 hours ago [-]
How is anyone going to prove it?
dannyw 1 hours ago [-]
You can tell Claude few-shots by eye; and asking for verification, such as a few screenshots isn’t unreasonable.
You don’t have to strive for perfection. Just get rid of the worst examples, and you’ll have a deterrent effect.
BigTTYGothGF 57 minutes ago [-]
You remove the obvious stuff and let the rest slide (for now).
pull_my_finger 1 hours ago [-]
It's very distressing that you can't even fathom people would self-disclose. You clearly understand that a lot of people would refrain from purchasing if they knew...
vegnus 43 minutes ago [-]
If you can develop something that doesn't appear to be obviously developed with LLMs, what is the point of disclosing it? It serves no positive purpose for the developer.
pull_my_finger 14 minutes ago [-]
Ethics? Respect for your consumer? Can you imagine if the food industry operated under your reasoning? If the consumer can't tell that the "ground beef" is rat meat|dog meat|human flesh, what purpose does it serve to disclose it? It serves no purpose for the manufacturer.
I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't care, but you "know" some consumers don't want it. At least give them the choice.
vegnus 10 minutes ago [-]
There's a massive difference between something you ingest into your body, and a silly indie video game you play on Itch. One can affect your health, the other effects only emotions
darepublic 2 hours ago [-]
The comments here are like a Bizarro world version of HN. Replace pro gen ai sentiment with negative
Really itch is kinda hitting what the mobile markets have been dealing with since long before LLMs, those markets were awash with clones and low quality even outright scammy crap.
Though maybe a bit harder for Itch since their whole shtick is being a low barrier place for people to put their game. Arguably the platform has always had slop, but I would categorize the majority as "honest slop", a person who maybe isn't any good at making games, or doesn't follow through actually finishing their game putting something up there.
anyone old enough to remember Newgrounds and the era of flash knows that loads of flash games were awful. but you would get a more normal Pareto distribution. Ai has lowered the bar so low that ratio becomes skewed. like 1:99 instead of 80:20 with the flood.
Banning AI seems like a non starter, you can make "honest slop" with ai, you can make even good games with it. Self tagging is basically saying "i don't want anyone to play my game". an honest game with AI will get thrown into the pit with the total crap. it's death.
chewing up real people in filters or auto-mod just makes the problem worse. Real people give up on the platform because they were burned, only the AI slop persists.
I don't know how you retain an open and friendly platform that's accepting of honest slop but can stem the tide of genuine slop.
You don’t have to strive for perfection. Just get rid of the worst examples, and you’ll have a deterrent effect.
I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't care, but you "know" some consumers don't want it. At least give them the choice.